User talk:White Flash/Archive 1

Welcome
Hi, welcome to K Project Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Yatogami Kuro page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- StarCrossedWonderland (Talk) 20:57, August 5, 2012

Message Reply
Hey, sorry for replying so late. Of course you can become an admin! The more the merrier! :) BTW, I think it's Homra, based on what the sign on their HQ marks.

StarCrossedWonderland (talk) 17:05, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Request for Aesthetics
Hello, White Flash. herald_of_meridian here. Just dropping by to say that I have a tentative plan for this wiki's background. (Please visit my wiki to check out the design). I think black as article background color is okay, but I have to consider changing the button colors to any grayish color or blue (the latter to match the link text).

Tell me if you want something changed. heraldofmeridian♣ 03:12, September 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I checked the quality of the PV (resolution-wise) and I don't think it would be good to use the PV because it's 320p; it would be too blurry. Aside from that, I'm pleased that you liked the concept. heraldofmeridian♣ 12:43, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

is the logo. heraldofmeridian♣ 13:25, September 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * This is actually the problem with having an anime series with only one letter as a title, so I improvised. heraldofmeridian♣ 00:44, September 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. heraldofmeridian♣ 12:38, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

WOW! :D
I log off for a few days and come back on and this wiki has transformed into something even more epic! I love it. Thanks for your help :)

Oh, and about that picture. It seems that the man on the left with the long hair is the Silver King. His name is Adolf K. Weissmann. I'm not to sure what the other guy's name is though, but I heard he's the Gold King.

EDIT: Turns out the other guy's name is Kokujyouji Daikaku (weird name lol) and he's a whooping 95 years old!

StarCrossedWonderland (talk) 16:04, September 14, 2012 (UTC)

Rules
Hey, White Flash. About your message... I never actually thought about making a page of rules because I know that wikia users out there know the basics: no vandalism, racist comments/posts, no spamming etc. But still, should I make one? Hmmm... what do you think?

StarCrossedWonderland (talk) 20:35, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Image Galleries
Hey. I was wondering if it was okay to create image galleries for the characters; instead of just placing random images of them on the actual article, we can put in the galleries. Since the anime will premiere shortly this week, and given the likely possibility that more images will be uploaded not too long after, I would think it'd help organize things better.

Re: Rules
Hey, White Flash. Just wanted to tell you that I started a page of rules here. Just check it out to see if you want to add anything!

StarCrossedWonderland (talk) 04:40, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

Policies and Standards
Hey there, White Flash.

I took a look at the rules that have been established so far for this wiki and while they make sense, they're pretty basic and are rather widely open to interpretation.

In my opinion, it'd be best to devise a set of rules specific to individual sections of the wiki, such as userpages, talk pages, blogs and the chat. I'm pretty good with guidelines and such so with your permission, could I work on some rules for them.

Another user, Glass Heart and I spoke about this and we both feel this would be a big help for the wiki. She wanted to include rules on article standards, images and the like and I think she definitely understands the need for them.

I'll create a tentative list and show you so that you can check it out and submit it for approval to whomever you feel the need to. Please get back to me on this.

Thank you. 15:23, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

I'll be giving you a link as soon as I'm finished with my part.

Also, I created a category called Imags of Reishi Munakata by accident. I created the proper one afterwards. If you could, please delete the first, mistaken one.

12:24, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Request
Hello! I'd like to recommend Glass Heart for administrator on the wiki. The rules states that one can't nominate themselves but technically I'm the one nominating her so that's legitimate, right? XD Anyway, Glass is a pretty experienced editor; admins 3 wikis, rollbacks and chat moderates 1. So you know she's familiar with these things! She can help a lot with things like page protection, blocks, page renames, deletions, ect. Basically all that administrative stuff that has to be done to maintain things here! Plus she's a great editor and knows good coding so I definitely think you should consider! She can handle rollback rights but I really think she could do more as an admin. You guys could use an extra hand in a couple of weeks when people start flocking here more!


 * I would like to second this nomination. Having worked with her across multiple Wikis, I have seen her work and I am sure she would be a good and capable admin.  13:09, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Wiki Wordmark change
Hello again, thanks for editing the navigation. Anyway, can you also change the Wiki Wordmark to this?

Also, why are you ignoring our messages? It's kinda rude, imo.

Btw, in the "Community Tab" it's K Project Wiki:Administrators and K Project Wiki:Policy, that's the wiki name space not K Wiki.


 * I guess so, are you planning on contacting Central to add "K Wiki" name space and if it's possible to delete "K Project" namespace?


 * I think they'll do it.


 * I am currently asking around to verify if it's possible.

Refresh
Hey White Flash.

I just want you to know that I'm nearly done with the policy work, but given how much editing goes on here, would you mind adding this js to the MediaWiki? It's an auto refresh for Wiki Activity and would be a ton of help.

/* Any JavaScript here will be loaded for all users on every page load. */ /* Auto Refresh */ AjaxRCRefreshText = 'Auto-refresh'; AjaxRCRefreshHoverText = 'Automatically refresh the page'; ajaxPages = ["Special:RecentChanges","Special:WikiActivity"]; importScriptPage('AjaxRC/code.js', 'dev');

Thanks.

Hello. In addition to the JavaScript above, could you also add the one for collapsibles? It's pretty convenient to use.

/* Collapsible */ importScriptPage('ShowHide/code.js', 'dev'); //    /**         Toggles the display of elements on a page Author/contact: Austin Che http://openwetware.org/wiki/User:Austin_J._Che See http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Toggle for examples and documentation */ // indexed array of toggler ids to array of associated toggle operations // each operation is a two element array, the first being the type, the second a class name or array of elements // operation types are strings like "_reset" or "" for the default toggle operation var togglers = new Array; var allClasses = new Object; // associative map of class names to page elements function toggler(id) {   var toBeToggled = togglers[id]; if (!toBeToggled) return; // if some element is in list more than once, it will be toggled multiple times for (var i = 0; i < toBeToggled.length; i++) {       // get array of elements to operate on        var toggles = toBeToggled[i][1]; if (typeof(toggles) == "string") {           if (toggles.charAt(0) == '-') {               // treat as an element ID, not as class toggles = document.getElementById(toggles.substring(1)); if (toggles) toggles = new Array(toggles); }           else toggles = allClasses[toggles]; }       if (!toggles || !toggles.length) continue; var op = toBeToggled[i][0]; // what the operation will be       switch (op) {           case "_reset": for (var j in toggles) toggles[j].style.display = toggles[j]._toggle_original_display; break; case "_show": for (var j in toggles) toggles[j].style.display = ''; break; case "_hide": for (var j in toggles) toggles[j].style.display = 'none'; break; case "": default: // Toggle for (var j in toggles) toggles[j].style.display = ((toggles[j].style.display == 'none') ? '' : 'none'); break; }   } } function createTogglerLink(toggler, id) {   var toggle = document.createElement("a"); toggle.className = 'toggler-link'; toggle.setAttribute('id', 'toggler' + id); toggle.setAttribute('href', 'javascript:toggler("' + id + '");'); var child = toggler.firstChild; toggler.removeChild(child); toggle.appendChild(child); toggler.insertBefore(toggle, toggler.firstChild); } function toggleInit {   var togglerElems = new Array; var toggleGroup = new Array; // initialize/clear any old information togglers = new Array; allClasses = new Object; allClasses.watch = undefined; allClasses.unwatch = undefined; // make list of all document classes var elems = document.getElementsByTagName("*"); var numelems = elems.length; for (var i = 0; i < elems.length; i++) {       var elem = elems[i]; if (!elem.className) continue; elem._toggle_original_display = elem.style.display; var togglerID = -1; var elemClasses = elem.className.split(' '); // get list of classes for (var j = 0; j < elemClasses.length; j++) {           var elemClass = elemClasses[j]; if (! allClasses[elemClass]) allClasses[elemClass] = new Array; allClasses[elemClass].push(elem); // all the special classes begin with _toggle if (elemClass.substring(0, 7) != "_toggle") continue; if (elemClass == "_togglegroup") toggleGroup = new Array; else if (elemClass == "_toggle") toggleGroup.push(elem); else if (elemClass.substring(0, 12) == "_toggle_init") {               // set initial value for display (ignore the original CSS set value) // understands _toggle_initshow and _toggle_inithide var disp = elemClass.substring(12); if (disp == "show") elem.style.display = ''; else if (disp == "hide") elem.style.display = 'none'; elem._toggle_original_display = disp; }           else if (elemClass.substring(0, 8) == "_toggler") {               if (togglerID == -1) {                   togglerID = togglers.length; togglers[togglerID] = new Array; togglerElems[togglerID] = elem; }               // all classes are of form _toggler_op-CLASS // figure out what class we're toggling // if none is specified, then we use the current toggle group var toBeToggled; var hyphen = elemClass.indexOf('-'); if (hyphen != -1) toBeToggled = elemClass.substring(hyphen+1); else {                   toBeToggled = toggleGroup; hyphen = elemClass.length; }               var op = elemClass.substring(8, hyphen); togglers[togglerID].push(new Array(op, toBeToggled)); }       }    }    // add javascript links to all toggler elements for (var i = 0; i < togglerElems.length; i++) createTogglerLink(togglerElems[i], i); } function owwsitesearch(f){ f.q.value='site:http://openwetware.org/wiki/'+ f.base.value+'++'+f.qfront.value } addOnloadHook(toggleInit); //

Policies
Hi there! First, thanks for adding the JS to the MediaWiki. Second, thanks again for letting Ultra and I write what we would want for the policies. At least on Ultra's behalf; though you didn't confirm explicitly that I could help as well, seeing as Ultra's shared his part of the policies with me, I presume that will be alright with you.

Now, I'll be listing several policies... and all are quite lengthy... so be warned, lol. Apologies in advance if I write too much then you'd like. Most of these I adapted from that of my own wikis though I changed some things specifically for here.


 * 1) Well yeah, that's pretty general since this is a site that contains official information nothing fanbased whatsoever. I thought I included that but from the looks of it things got taken out. :/
 * 2) Sounds good with me.
 * 3) An image solely in an image gallery doesn't serve actual use on the wiki. If its used on articles and even userpages, talk pages, blogs, then it has some relevant use on the wiki. Having it in the image galleries is the same as simply having it float around the place, to be honest.
 * 4) Well, firstly, who said we actually need to convert it to a different file? Second, there can be some good use for these animations such as showing off abilities and techniques, like Kuroh's unique trait with his hand or Izumo's use of fireballs generating from the sparks of his cigarette. And third, while it's true GIFs do tend to lose the quality in images, that doesn't mean it's the same for all. I've seen GIFs without little or even any quality loss.


 * That's not true. You said yourself after that the site is not an image repository. Now, images aren't a bad thing and they help illustrate articles. I'm sure we both know that. The galleries are to organize the article images, allowing readers to find them easily, not to distribute every single file that users upload with no place on the wiki outside the galleries. Especially low-quality images.


 * GIFs show the full use of the ability which I find more preferable. Now, about the last point, I've never had that issue at all, and actually, I very am skeptical about the internet connection affecting GIF quality. The quality of the GIF depends on how it's made. The only possible issue that people with slow internet connection could have with them is the article page loading slower. Having good GIFs is not a bad thing.


 * Very well then. I still disagree as GIFs aren't very problematic themselves... but I'll go along with things.

Deletion
K (series) is an article for both Anime and Manga. K which you just deleted is the anime page, like how K: MoR has one.

Please undo the deletion so I can add this:

List of K episodes.

Okay, I'll create a merged page but can you at least undelete those two for now so I can copy the info. After I'm done you can delete it.

Lol don't worry about it. Also I don't think making an episode is necessary, since there are only few, same goes for the chapters.

I'm done you can delete it now, since my english is bad I can't edit aside from templates. Anyway, can you edit the Nav change the Media section to: *K (series)|Media

**K_(series)#Anime|Anime ***K_(series)#Anime|K ***K_(series)#List_of_Episodes|Episodes

**K_(series)#Manga|Manga ***K_(series)#Manga|K: Memory of Red ***K_(series)#List_of_Chapters|Chapters

Navigation
Please change Reisi's name from Reishi → Reisi on the navigation.

RE: Photoshop
Been using photoshop for more than a year now, I mostly use it for painting and coloring. I also do photo manipulation but I'm not that good at it.

Mainpage
Can you semi-protect the mainpage so we can edit it?

Monobook Skin
Currently, the wiki's Monobook skin lacks design compared to the Oasis default so do you mind sending a request here about making one for us? I have some suggestions as to what we can use for the theme, if you'd like some secondary thoughts on it.

Well, the Monobook skin should look relatively similar to the Oasis one. These are just some general things that need covering and most of them are what we should include if we want visually similar looks for both skins, though I added some personal choices for myself (which I think look good for it).
 * # 000000 sidebar headers, #FFFFFF text within the headers, #0148C2 links.
 * Same logo.
 * Different background though I'm not sure what to use. Since Monobook's layout is considerably different than Oasis, this one would just look awkward. I would recommend if someone could make a different background with a different theme, though not too different from the current one in Oasis.
 * Rounded borders. Personally, I'd go with silver, possibly outset too at best.
 * Same thing with the borders applying to the search bar and the "Go" and "Search" buttons beneath it.
 * Transparency, also on sidebars.


 * So what do you think about it?

Btw, Remnant is doing a redesign for the Main Page for the Monobook skin and to finish things up, he needs you to add the following CSS to MediaWiki:Common.css. div.ajax-poll { width:auto !important; }

Well, he doesn't want to make the background, since he believes he's not very good at them, so I'll try making one.

How's this for the Monobook skin? It can be repeated.

Well, what particular things do you want for the background? Truthfully, if you want a good and relevant background image it would need to be made custom since there's not a lot of images relating to K available. And even so, they'd only be low-quality promos. Either Remnant (should he decide to make one) or myself can make one if we know what should be included.


 * Thoughts about that?

Reminder
This XD

Navigation +
Hi White Flash. Just letting you know that Shouhei and Bandou still have incorrect names in the navigation which ought to be changed.

BTW, I think a UTC clock for the wiki would be a great addition. If we don't run on UTC time, figuring out when something happened with the Wikia timestamps can be a pain. // // ============================================================ // displayTimer // ============================================================ var refreshDate; function addDate { var UTCDate = ((new Date).toUTCString).replace("GMT", "(UTC)"); $('#showdate').empty.append(' ' + UTCDate.substring(5) + ' '); window.clearTimeout(refreshDate); refreshDate = window.setTimeout(addDate, 5000); } $(document).ready(function {   if (skin == 'oasis')         $(' ').appendTo('#GlobalNavigation');    else        $('#p-personal ul').prepend(' ');    addDate;    refreshDate = window.setTimeout(addDate, 5000);    $('#displayTimer').css({'font-size': "12px"}); }); //

This needs to be placed in the js of the Wiki.

The code was shown to me courtesy of Glass Heart. Though I don't mean to be pushy, it seems clear to me that with the next episode set to air and more new users coming around, and the different timezones users operate it, having her become an administrator would be a significant help to the wiki. As Remnant already told you, she's well qualified for the position and having worked with her, I know her to be an exceptional editor.

Sure, I understand what you're saying, though, if I may say, she's not the most active of us and hasn't logged in in a while nor has she responded to messages other than yours. If you could bring it to her attention and get her to think on the issue, it could really speed up the process.

17:48, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Helpz
What do you need help with? :) Seelentau 愛議 21:41, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * 十束 is a family name, the Kanji mean 'ten' and 'bundle'
 * 夜刀神 means 'night', 'sword' and 'god'
 * ネコ means 'cat'
 * 礼司 Reiji is a given name, the Kanji mean 'salute' and 'director'
 * 雪染 means 'snow' and 'dye'
 * 菊理 'Kikuri' is female give name, the Kanji mean 'chrysanthemum' and 'logic'
 * Seelentau 愛議 09:13, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Navigation and Favicon
Hello, can you put Yashiro first then Kuroh and Neko on the navigation, since he's the main character. Also arrange the Kings using their ranks and link "Universe" as Browse.

Btw, I think it's better to use this favicon, rather than the stretched version and I'm sure the others will agree.

Homra
Thank you for your message on my Talk Page. It's unnecessary really. My apology if the link doesn't work, but to my amazement you didn't put the effort to actually refer any of your facts in related to the simple word "HOMRA" through the Official [ K ] Project website (In Japanese, that is if you "can" give me the prounciation of "HOMURA", then you "sure" can read Japanese, gaijin). There is an Official [ K ] Project website that is based in English as well, which you can refer before proceeding with your invalid, unreliable argument. Forgive me for being impolite, I will not be replying to any messages in regards to "HOMRA" henceforth - since the facts are there.

Reply
Hey, Flash. Thanks a lot for the link. I hadn't even seen that yet lol. Uh... sorry I haven't been to reply for a while. School has been a pain and my younger sister has been the one editing for me for the past week or so.

Oh and it seems that that HOMRA/HOMURA thing has been given a lot of discussion lately. Maybe it's just that it's spelt HOMRA but it sounds like HOMURA? I'm not sure. Everyone spells it as HOMRA so...

StarCrossedWonderland (talk) 03:33, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Site maintenance and Nav
I'm doing some site maintenance and found this =P can you make a subpage for your sig instead of a template and delete that template. On an unrelated note can you also add Homura and SCEPTER4 under Clan and change Browse Wiki to just Browse.
 * Change it to Universe then, damn default... crap... anyway, I said make a subpage for your sig like mine instead of a template since it screws up the template categories that I want to organize.


 * Link "Universe" with the Browse category and add Homura and SCEPTER4 under "Clan". You can also ask Glass to move your sig to Template: --> User: using a bot on talk/forum pages. It'll be hell doing it manually.

Can you remove the Animanga script that you imported into this wiki. It screws up the poll heading and it doesn't go with the wikis style theme, next to that it almost doesn't have any use.

See the poll on the front page? the checkbox and header alignment is messed up.

Other wikis not complaining isn't relevant. It doesn't look good when it's not aligned properly, some might confused that the header is an option. The color is different, it doesn't suit the wikis theme and I want to be consistent with everything thing here regarding the templates, layouts and designs. Though I don't mind adopting some parts of the script.

Btw, it's Community not Community on the nav.

Background
I've been contemplating and I finally reached a conclusion. I said before that using the Oasis skin for the Monobook wouldn't look good; however, if you align it as "fixed", and you remove the black buildings and white sky on the right side of it, it doesn't look too bad even with additional transparency (which, btw, would look better than without). So basically, the modified Oasis skin for MB would appear like this plain and simple. There's not a lot of large full body images of characters especially looking at an angle like you requested and personally, using screenshots or manga panels wouldn't look good even with some cleaning. At least the ones in K and K:MoR. So, are you okay with using the linked image for the MB background instead?

What do you mean specifically by Customize Icon?

We can use the favicon for that, to make it simple. If you had some other options, just list 'em.

So, do you have anything else to include for the skin? There's nothing else that I can think of aside from the sidebar headers, icons, and how the background to be placed. Personally, I'd go with: Some of these I forgot to add in the list of preferences for the skin. :/
 * # 0A0A0A headers.
 * Favicon as an icon.
 * Fixed background with transparency.

I have nothing else to say about it. Feel free to send the request.

Can you use this for the wikimark on Monobook? It would look better instead the currents used, imo. Also, there seems to be something with the alignment of the background. It looks like it's in the image provided so I'm trying to fix that.
 * For the background CSS, replace it with this:

body.mediawiki { background:url("http://images.wikia.com/k-anime/images/1/1f/Background.jpg") fixed no-repeat center center #000000; }

Aura
Do you mind helping us.... like adding a quote or poll.

Hello. Just wanted to drop a message about having added the term Strain to the Aura section of this wiki. I also wanted to add Yubikiri Maria to the character list, and references to chapter 3 of the manga and episode three as source for Strain, but I don't know how to, so I appologize for that. BackT0basics (talk) 08:28, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

What's going on here...?
Hi. So from what I've heard, this seems like a mess. I know Remnant13, Glass Heart and UltraPrime2 personally from the FT Wiki, so I've heard stories from them and I've looked through conversations/discussion on the Wiki itself. What are you trying to do exactly? These users are very capable of running a Wiki by themselves so they sure as hell can be trusted, but you seem to neglect every suggestion or request they have. (Don't take "every" literally, you know what I mean.) Keep in mind that these users want to bring out everything they can out of this Wiki, maybe not in the way that you want, but broaden your point of view and you'll see that if you be cooperative with them, that so much could come out. Sometimes an admin/bureaucrat should be flexible and listen and take advice to and from his community. Community is pretty important on a Wiki, basically the whole Wikia spirit revolves around community.

Basically, long story short, listen to Rem, Glass and Ultra and be cooperative.

P.S.: I wouldn't wanna get involved, but they asked me to come and talk to you, so eventually I did. Yeah, that's how bad this is.

14:19, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

oh thank you!


 * I was under the impression that they already tried to talk to you about this many times. And these users just expect to run this Wiki, together, with an admin/bureaucrat in charge. They aren't finding what they are looking for. Also, I've seen that one of the main problems are that they have to ask you for every modification to the Wiki that requires admin rights. "Asking" meaning depending on what you say, wether you agree or not. You've had plenty of control and assertiveness. And I can fully understand that Glass, Ultra and Rem have a different Wiki view then you have and I get why you want it to be your own Wiki, but I'll repeat it: "broaden your point of view and you'll see that if you be cooperative with them, that so much could come out."  19:03, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

... No answer? 00:54, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

Poll Header
As it seems there's been some disagreements about the poll headers being used here, would you mind giving me your opinion on why we ought to use it exactly, given that, in my opinion, it doesn't blend in with our wiki's style.

Furthermore, if we were able to alter it to make it blend better, would you be willing to go for it?


 * Yes, the header.


 * Removing it sounds good to me.

Community Corner
Hey. The Community Corner incorrectly states that Knock-on effect is the second episode when it's actually the fourth. Also, can you perhaps link the K: Memory of Red notice there to the Chapters section on this?

Nav fix
I've said this before, please change the Community link on Nav to Community.

Pages that needs protection and other stuff
These pages needs to be semi-protected:
 * Characters
 * Did You Know
 * Poll
 * Left Content
 * Right Content
 * Bottom Content

and care to replace the Community Message with this: {| style="text-align: center; background-color:white; font-size:89%; padding:2px 2px 3px 2px; width:100%; border-radius:2ex; border:1px solid #0A0A0A;" The wiki about K that anyone can edit

K is out! Be sure to check out the fourth episode Knock-on effect ! style="height:21px; border-radius:0 0 10px 10px; background-color:#0A0A0A; color:#FFFFFF; text-align:left;" |
 * }