User talk:Glass Heart

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Welcome
Hi, welcome to K Project Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Izumo Kusanagi page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- White Flash (Talk) 02:23, September 28, 2012

Reply
Sounds alright to me! White Flash (議論 22:47, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Policies
Okay, I've read the list. Looks good to me, however I would like to change a few things in the Image Policy: White Flash (議論 06:02, October 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Users cannot upload any personal images or fan art, they're not being used for anything.
 * 2) Images of good quality is what we want, any images of poor quality will have
 * 3) "Every image uploaded must have a purpose on this wiki. If the image uploaded has no use within an hour of uploading, it will be marked for deletion and subsequently deleted by an administrator" Most likely any anime/manga images will end up in an images gallery, rather not see it deleted.
 * 4) I rather avoid .gif images, and converting a .gif into another file format before uploading is pointless. We do not need animations, and the .gif format does not handle quality properly. It has a limited color depth, and as a result the moment you save an image with the .gif format it loses a large amount of quality.
 * On #3: Well technically images on an image gallery does serve actual use. It helps keep images categorized perfectly. For instance look at Reisi Munakata/Image Gallery.


 * One #4: Firstly, I was making a point about .gifs. Secondly, if we want to show characters using their abilities then we can always just use ordinary images not .gifs. Finally, .gifs are bad period, there might be people with slower computers or internet connection where the gifs just look like poorly pixelated pictures. Wikis are supposed to be encyclopedic, not an image repository.
 * White Flash (議論 08:31, October 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * My decision remains. No .gifs. You may not experience that sort of problem but myself, and I'm sure others have. I agree with the rest of the policies, however. White Flash (議論 19:28, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Navigation
Done. White Flash (議論 09:39, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Monobook Skin
What do you have in mind? White Flash (議論 07:58, October 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks alright. About the background, is it possible for User:Remnant13 to make one? White Flash (議論 08:36, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not really a fan of logos as a background image. I'll find the image myself. White Flash (議論 16:11, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, image hunting for me wasn't much of a success :/ Guess you should create one. Perhaps something like this, a character gazing at something would be nice as a background. White Flash (議論 08:07, October 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Awesome. Just one thing what do you think of having a customize icon?--White Flash (議論 15:21, October 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * This.--White Flash (議論 15:55, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

Reply
Sorry about all the things I've been doing wrong on this wiki lately hahaha... *smiles speepishly* It's sort of embarrassing to say, but this is the first wiki I've created, so I've still got a lot to learn. I haven't been able to edit frequently because of school, and my sister's been using my account to edit for the past few days, but it seems that she was doing the wrong things too... so I guess I'll have to tell her about that.

StarCrossedWonderland (talk) 05:24, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Homura
um... in episode 2 .... Chitose You and Eric Surt are seen inside Homura's van... tracking down Isana, i guess? And um.... they are also in various original arts of this anime :) And also, chapter 3 and 4 are focused on them :)

PandoraFateSoulShippuuden (talk) 13:00, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Homura
Um... does various fb K Gora project pages count as reliable information? if not, then please, remove the characters :) ...and um... let us wait for the 3rd and 4th chapter... :>

PandoraFateSoulShippuuden (talk) 13:05, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Links
If you want to evaluate if they ar fan-based or not, i can give you their links ... is that ok?

PandoraFateSoulShippuuden (talk) 13:09, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

The link :)
Here is the link to the fb page where i found out their names and that they are part of Homura and that they are going to appear in the upcoming chapters/ episodes --> http://www.facebook.com/kAnimeGoRaProject.

PandoraFateSoulShippuuden (talk) 13:13, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Direct
if you're having problems in finding the correct posts, here they are :)

Homura Members: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=386987724704422&set=a.335410383195490.73956.335395599863635&type=1&relevant_count=1

Saying that they are going to appear in later chapters: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=386980008038527&set=a.335410383195490.73956.335395599863635&type=1&relevant_count=1

PandoraFateSoulShippuuden (talk) 13:18, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! ^u^ -- till next time! just drop by :>

PandoraFateSoulShippuuden (talk) 13:25, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Junk Trivia?
I don't believe that giving out information about the fonts used during the intro is junk trivia. Yes, it might not be connected to the story, but these info on the fonts used have been verified. heraldofmeridian♣ 01:38, October 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Meh, go ahead, revert those. It's sad that those quirky pieces of information has no place in the character articles. heraldofmeridian♣ 01:49, October 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Now hold on there partner. These fonts Herald showed are something worth mentioning. Not on the character article but perhaps Episode 1. Herald said GoRA confirmed this and the fact these fonts are used in Episode 1 and the first trailer so why not?--White Flash (議論 15:55, October 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. Name fonts? Really? I still can't believe that two users are arguing about it being junk trivia. Let alone one. They're irrelevant on any articles, not just character trivia sections. Firstly, trivia that says " was used on 's title card in Episode 1" is just as relevant as saying (should this be true) "Mikoto and Anna share the same birthday" or "Interestingly, Anna is the youngest and smallest member of Homura". Quirky or not, it's not relevant. It may seem interesting to some people but even then, it'll still be just junk trivia. Secondly, even if GoRA did confirm it, there are two additional faults as to why I removed them from the articles in the first place. They're unreferenced and externally linked to a site completely unrelated to K.
 * Do you even you know what's the difference between junk trivia and normal trivia? As I said before junk trivia is stating the obvious, "Yashiro and Kuroh are the only people who saw Neko naked" or "Mikoto hair is the color of red just like his aura" is an example of that. You and I both know it, everyone knows it and but wait it does have a relevance to K, is it really worth mentioning? HELL NO. I'm not sure why you are so picky with Trivia, but other wikis have their way of doing trivia's. I want this Wiki to do the same thing, but you're the only one who's preventing that from happening all because you want the trivia to be "confirm" by GoRA which is like having no trivia at all. Those fonts are a reference to K since those fonts are use for the characters illustrations, if the external link bothered you, you could've just remove the link.--White Flash (議論 20:19, October 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you even you know what's the difference between junk trivia and normal trivia? As I said before junk trivia is stating the obvious, "Yashiro and Kuroh are the only people who saw Neko naked" or "Mikoto hair is the color of red just like his aura" is an example of that. You and I both know it, everyone knows it and but wait it does have a relevance to K, is it really worth mentioning? HELL NO. I'm not sure why you are so picky with Trivia, but other wikis have their way of doing trivia's. I want this Wiki to do the same thing, but you're the only one who's preventing that from happening all because you want the trivia to be "confirm" by GoRA which is like having no trivia at all. Those fonts are a reference to K since those fonts are use for the characters illustrations, if the external link bothered you, you could've just remove the link.--White Flash (議論 20:19, October 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * 1) This is the K Project Wiki.
 * 2) This is not Narutopedia. Get that straight and stop trying to make us into one content-wise.
 * 3) Not every trivia point has to be confirmed. At the very least, it should be relevant. The font trivia was irrelevant.
 * 4) In addition, it was unreferenced. Stuff like that should have one since he claimed GoRA confirmed it.


 * "Not every trivia point has to be confirmed" Really? So which is it? Not confirm or confirm? I'm starting to regret not creating a trivia policy sooner if I know users like you would put such a fuss over it.--White Flash (議論 13:53, October 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Both. Some trivia points can be explained and referenced sporadically throughout the article yet not fully explained until it hits the Trivia section. It doesn't make the specific point redundant as it is not explicitly written already. Trivia that is only mentioned in the section should have a reference.


 * And I'm sorry if my ideals are so in conflict with yours. But I just don't want our articles to have content that could generally be viewed as unneeded crap.
 * The way you arbitrary remove the trivia sounds like those articles are yours not ours. Didn't you ever notice that there isn't one article that has a trivia section?! Quite hypocritical you said both, you didn't want those Fonts, as well as the translations of the character's names, you refuse to have them all because they "have no reference to K" but when in fact they do.
 * Those fonts are used in the character's illustrantions, in the first trailer and in Episode 1.
 * Translations of the characters have a reference to their abilities/personality etc. (礼司) The kanji from Reisi means 'salute/director' and he's the leader of SCEPTER4, so is he not the director?
 * Nobody knows this, these aren't unneeded crap, so why not mentioned it?--White Flash (議論 17:33, October 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nobody knows this, these aren't unneeded crap, so why not mentioned it?--White Flash (議論 17:33, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

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I don't believe you quite understood what I meant. I do not ever recall me saying that the trivia points "have no reference to K". I simply said that they have no reference.

Firstly, I do not believe that they are very relevant trivia points. The meaning of a character's name does not always relate to the character and even if it does, I don't find it worthwhile. Besides, even if it does mean something such as "Salute/Director", what if it has an actual different meaning? Not every kanji means just "one" thing. If their names means something, there should be a reference, because then GoRA would have to confirm it. I still wouldn't want it on the article anyhow, as I do not find it relevant or significant enough to stay, but if it actually had to then it would need reference.

Secondly, it's truly surprising to see that you're clinging to the name fonts. Seriously, this is ridiculous. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I still can't believe that two users are arguing about it being junk trivia. It is. No matter how significant you may think it is, it is just junk trivia. It may have a connection to K and/or the characters but it's not actually relevant, nor is it interesting. Not on any article. "Oh look, they use this font for Mikoto Suoh! That's something new." No one will ever think about that.

Now, you claim that I "arbitrary" remove trivia and you add that not a single article apparently has a trivia section. How I see things as worth mentioning is not the same as how you'd view it. I'm sure that's clear. But the reason there's no trivia sections yet is because, one, the current list had information that I found irrelevant and not worth mentioning, two, the series is still relatively new and we don't know enough about many characters still. There may be interesting points but I have yet to find any. I'm sure several users are having this same little issue. If I or others find and add interesting and relevant trivia points, then I would decide whether it stays or goes. Others have this privilege. Not just myself.

If you're going to reply again to this message, don't. Since it won't get us anywhere. If you want some action done, take it to a forum. See how others think about what's actual junk trivia or not. I'm sure others will disagree with your points and even with my own. Should a majority oppose adding a certain trivia or support it, we'll take a vote and see. That should solve some issues.

Background
That's all, we have: We're ready? White Flash (議論 13:46, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Colors: # 0A0A0A headers. # 000000 sidebar headers, #FFFFFF text within the headers, #0148C2 links.
 * Same logo.
 * Icon: this image
 * Transparency: Yes also on sidebars.
 * Background Image: this image fixed.

Eric Surt
Um...may I ask... can you please rename Eric Sutr to Eric Surt? It's how it's suppose to be spelled in the manga... and in the romaji pronounciation.... here is a link to the proof that Surt is his last name: http://mangafox.me/manga/k_memory_of_red/c004/1.html

and here too: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=385037204899474&set=a.335410383195490.73956.335395599863635&type=1&relevant_count=1

I'll be searching for other links... please look at this for the meantime, please?

PandoraFateSoulShippuuden (talk) 07:55, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Affiliations
Sure, sounds alright.--White Flash (Contact) 02:01, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Question
I'd be glad to help you, sure :) Seelentau 愛議 15:17, November 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * err, do you want me to translate the whole lyrics or just the mentioned information? Seelentau 愛議 15:52, November 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm sure you can find them on the internet, they're too much for me^^
 * ワイルド・クロウ Wairudo Kurō 作詞 (Lyrics): あざの耕平 Kōhei Azano (GoRA)/作曲 (Composition): /編曲 (Arrangement): R•O•N/歌 (Song): 八田美咲 Misaki Yata (Cv. 福山潤 Jun Fukuyama)
 * I'll do the rest later, have to buy me some food now ^_^ Seelentau 愛議 16:50, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I had (and still have) stuff to do for school, but I'll try and translate the rest this weekend. I haven't forgotten about you, don't worry. :) Seelentau 愛議 16:22, November 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've to write a portfolio about "Kabale und Liebe" by Friedrich Schiller. It sucks^^ Anyway, I asked GoRA on twitter if they've someone who speaks English, but they didn't answer and I can't ask them in Japanese about the composers and all. So I'll just restart and continue my translation:

  (Translation)


 * ワイルド・クロウ Wairudo Kurō (Wild Claw)
 * 作詞 Sakushi (Lyrics): あざの耕平 Azano Kōhei (Kōhei Azano'')
 * 作曲 Sakkyoku (Composition): R•O•N
 * 編曲 Henkyoku (Arrangement): R•O•N
 * 歌 Uta (Song): 八田美咲 (Cv. 福山潤) Yata Misaki (Cv. Fukuyama Jun) (Misaki Yata (Cv. Jun Fukuyama))


 * 青の衛士 Poetry Reading ver. Ao no Eji/Eishi Poetry Reading ver. (Blue Defense Samurai Poetry Reading ver.)
 * 作詞 Sakushi (Lyrics): 高橋弥七郎 (GoRA) Takahashi Yashichiro (GoRA) (Yashichiro Takahashi (GoRA))
 * 作曲 Sakkyoku (Composition): R•O•N
 * 編曲 Henkyoku (Arrangement): R•O•N
 * 歌 Uta (Song): 宗像礼司 (Cv. 杉田智和) Munakata Reisi (Cv. Sugita Tomokazu) (Reisi Munakata (Cv. Tomokazu Sugita))


 * ハート・イン・ブルー Hāto In Burū (Heart In Blue)
 * 作詞 Sakushi (Lyrics):
 * 作曲 Sakkyoku (Composition): 橋本由香利 Hashimoto Yukari (Yukari Hashimoto)
 * 編曲 Henkyoku (Arrangement): 橋本由香利 Hashimoto Yukari (Yukari Hashimoto)
 * 歌 Uta (Song):


 * 炎のカタチ Honō no Katachi (Shape of the Flame)
 * 作詞 Sakushi (Lyrics):
 * 作曲 Sakkyoku (Composition):
 * 編曲 Henkyoku (Arrangement):
 * 歌 Uta (Song): 櫛名アンナ (Cv. 堀江由衣) Kushina Anna (Cv. Horie Yui) (Anna Kushina (Cv. Yui Horie))


 * HAPPY DAYS?
 * 作詞 Sakushi (Lyrics):
 * 作曲 Sakkyoku (Composition):
 * 編曲 Henkyoku (Arrangement):
 * 歌 Uta (Song):


 * レジェンド台所 Rejendo Daidokoro (Legend Kitchen)
 * 作詞 Sakushi (Lyrics):
 * 作曲 Sakkyoku (Composition):
 * 編曲 Henkyoku (Arrangement):
 * 歌 Uta (Song):


 * ネコのうた Neko no Uta (Neko's Song/Song of the Cat)
 * 作詞 Sakushi (Lyrics):
 * 作曲 Sakkyoku (Composition): 橋本由香利 Hashimoto Yukari (Yukari Hashimoto)
 * 編曲 Henkyoku (Arrangement): 橋本由香利 Hashimoto Yukari (Yukari Hashimoto)
 * 歌 Uta (Song): ネコ (Cv. 小松未可子) Neko (Cv. Komatsu Mikako) (Neko (Cv. Mikako Komatsu))

Here to help
Hey, I've decided I'll help you out with this wiki of yours, (I've found K to be quite an interseting anime myself) I'm going to start uploading a whole bunch of images of main characters and important scenes (all well edited). However, before I do, I'd like to know if there's a proper citation format you'd like for me to follow on this wiki when uploading images. Leave me a message on my user page here or on FTW when ya get the chance. --- <font face="Edwardian Script ITC"> <span style="color:deepskyblue;" title="Who is this CRAZY cool guy? B)"> Oz  <span style="color:silver;" title="Troll my talk page, I dare you, seriously, DO IT."> †     20:07, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

ಠ_ಠ
Doing things on your own accord again... Sigh... I'll fix your mess when I have time.